There
is a wildlife migration corridor from BOSAWAS to the coast and going south on
the coast of RAAN which will be disrupted by either a canal or a rail line.
Jose
Manzanares is the director. We met with
Braxis Alverez and German Areas.
Welcome,
we are very willing to share information with you. The youth and environment movement has been
going on for 18years and we have two programs – the National Earth Fair and the
list of 40 most endangered species. June
5 is the National Day of the Environment.
We get private funds. In the
fair, we have talks by students of all ages and by environmentally friendly
companies like CEFA, CICFA, USN, IUCN, International Conservation of
Nature? CIFCA is part of IUCN, who
helped with the endangered species of Nicaragua book, the first of its type published
in Central America.
The
iguanas of Dario are endangered but not as bad as the ones in the book.
CICFA
is giving talks on climate change and figuring out what to do with solid,
dangerous waste.
This is
like a club – we invite youth to come and we talk about nature and the
environment.
This
organization is not partisan. We worked
with the liberal government; they were not very interested in the environment,
but were easier to access. This current
government has guard a da ramco (a bird), but they are weak in science – they
lack thought of consequences.
The
bird group has more access to funds to get a plane to Rio San Juan to plant and
re-forest. We sometimes give talks to
them.
Last
year, the fair was in La Porita in Chinandega, which is forested with precious
wood and fruit trees, so the people would have something to eat.
There
are many problems in the BOSAWAS – putting order in the territory. The indigenous are not destroying BOSAWAS,
they are trying to conserve it. The
Mayangnas live there but do not endanger it.
Problems –
·
extracting precious wood – Managua gives permission without being
careful
·
poverty has improved, but rural poor people are coming in with hopes of
a better life
·
water, biodiversity, as well as wood.
·
Less than 290 people are administering BOSAWAS, which had been managed
by Inafor and was just moved to under the President.
Charley
– suggestion – in defense of the environment, with your help, we would like to
get the word out that it is not good for outsiders to come to indigenous land
right now. The government needs time to
do its job on the saneamiento. It’s the
outsiders that are causing the environmental problems.
Response
– yes, the Mestizos are cutting wood and bring in cattle – even worse are the
logging concessions.
In
Costa Rica, certain woods cannot be cut, but it can be gotten from Nicaragua –
it’s like a wood mafia.
It’s
not important how many guards there are – it’s important what happens in
Managua, giving the concessions.
Is
INAFOR corrupt? To talk about the
government is complicated. There are
people that think this change could be positive, but others think the president
will benefit its own businesses.
Charley
– step 5 would bring order, but it is not being followed and seen through. It would help stop the mafia of lumber. One of the ways to stop the Mestizos is to
reduce their poverty here on the Pacific side, or where they currently
live. Part of the problem is that the
Indigenous Territorial Governments need training in budgeting and how to work
with the national government. Some
Mestizos may know how to take care of the environment, but they are very poor
and don’t know any other way to use the land.
Land brokers are a problem, for example the Tomas Lopez Lopez case.
German
responded – it’s hard to change the situation.
I still think the problem is the concessions. Twice an indigenous person has come to this
office to ask for help, but he was violent, so we broke off relations.
Kathy –
Mayangna Sauni As are burning houses.
German
– We are open to helping, but this guy was swearing and very violent. There
is a special ombudsman for the environment that you might meet with. We have a campaign with some media spots to
put out the information about the red list of endangered species. The magazine Vocero Environmentalista (Voice
of Environment) attacks problems directly and they don’t soft pedal it – if the
government needs to change, they say so.
Why not
television spots telling the campesinos not to go to the Atlantic side? That is difficult because they are
desperate. The bono productive (zero
hunger program) is not getting to some places and people don’t have enough
food. Also, some must pay for
emergencies or can’t feed the chickens what they are used to eating, so they
die.
(Our
impression of the Young Environmentalists is that they have their 2 – 3
projects and aren’t willing to listen to us about the problem, nor get involved
with a public service announcement project.
It seemed to me like we were talking about apples and they were talking
about oranges.)
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